Where are we?

By Nathaniel

A good question. Many of you are asking or have asked this. I can honestly say that I am not a youth pastor at a PCA church anymore. Now I am a college professor teaching at my alma mater. At the moment I have absolutely no desire to enter “professional ministry”…paychecks=compromise (for me). My friend Jarrod is working on planting a church in Bolivar, Missouri. Devin is growing a family and still chillin’ like an Ashevillian. As far as our relationship to this blog goes we’re mostly retired. I speak for myself when I say it is difficult to carve out the time to do this thing well…the cost/return ratio is on the low end now that my family has grown and time is at a premium. Also, I just have a hard time getting fired up about this stuff anymore. I have become cynical in regard to “The prophetic movement” and all of its offshoots. When I run into someone (pretty infrequently nowadays) who starts spouting the usual taglines I generally am wondering if they’re moments away from foaming at the mouth in order to prove a spiritual point. I smile, wave, and back away. Just like this….


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11 responses to “Where are we?

  1. At some point, you just have to move on and live your life. That being true, I’ll be in Asheville in a few months for a visit, would sure like to meet you in person. It’s interesting, outside the institutional church, how under the radar all this stuff becomes.

  2. do not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil. 1 Thessalonians 5:20-22

  3. IWTT

    Understand your stance completely. While I still look at a few blogs and respond on about 2 or 3 of them I have been a part of a forum (sharing administration status) where the bible studies are excellent and thought provoking, the discussion are done in the most respective way than most other sites I read and we are as close a group as one can get on the net. We pray for one another, confess to one another in hard times, and can be humorus with one another.

    All coming from the far corners of the earth. It’s a great group….

    Be blessing to you are your family

  4. Jarrod Taylor

    I am planting a church in Bolivar Missouri. I miss ya Nat. I am glad you guys are doing well. IWTT You are good people. God bless

  5. IWTT


    I WROTE, “Be blessing to you are your family”

    Huh? What did I say?” Nice grammer, almost as bad as Yoda!

  6. Jarod,
    I don’t know if we’re doing well but we are doing.

  7. One day I’d still love to sit in the same room and chat. I learned a lot from you dudes. Didn’t agree with you… Almost never, but learned a lot. And genuinely liked you guys a ton.

    Cool that Jarrod is church planting in rural Missouri!

    Haven’t updated you dudes in a while, but Im now pastoring a church in Upstate New York, Rochester area. The church is New Hope Fellowship.

    If your ever in the area look me up.

    Much love

  8. John Weaver

    Dear Nathaniel,
    I am a professor at SUNY Binghamton who’s trying to trace the history of the Kansas City Prophets and their relationship to NAR politics. I was hoping you guys might have some links to the old really extremist sermons that Bickle, Cain, and Jones made in the 80’s. Also, is there any way you can let me know how to contact Gruen’s son or grandson, just so I can include their formal confirmation of Gruen’s denial of having ever rejected his original testimony (which, I, like you, think is total junk). Anyway, let me know if you can. If you’re interested in my background, I’m the author of Evangelicals and the Arts in Fiction from McFarland Press. Thanks.


  9. hey John this is not Nat , but i still check this site from time to time. let me see what i can find for you if you are still interested.

  10. John Weaver

    jarrod, I still am interested.

  11. Josh

    Is this website still active? Could you tell me a bit about yourselves/the website?

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